Comments on: What is the future of Flamenco on the internet? http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet Flamenco Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:12:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Alain SEGURA http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-506 Alain SEGURA Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:48:37 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-506 The Bob Weisemberg message is a good set up. As the cell phone, internet has not made anyone more clever. To learn Flamenco with a few clicks, why not. One can reach what he is able to find: no less; no more. Way is hard: you have to cross mountains of awful videos, listen to voices telling you 'that's the place '... Sometimes you find an interview like this one and the way turn clearer for your next footsteps: http://www.flamenco-world.com/artists/morao/morao.htm The Bob Weisemberg message is a good set up.
As the cell phone, internet has not made anyone more clever.
To learn Flamenco with a few clicks, why not.

One can reach what he is able to find: no less; no more.

Way is hard: you have to cross mountains of awful videos, listen to voices telling you ‘that’s the place ‘…

Sometimes you find an interview like this one and the way turn clearer for your next footsteps:

http://www.flamenco-world.com/artists/morao/morao.htm

]]> By: Juanón http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-505 Juanón Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:43:03 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-505 Could there be some kind of regulation, a seal of approval or endorsement by a regognized body for instructional videos or clips posted on YouTube? There is so much nonsense posted which, to the uninitiated, looks and sounds right but is not and leads to more confusion and frustration when trying to learn! Somtimes my students turn up for class with some idiotic falseta or way of playing compás that they've got from YT and then have to un-learn it. So annoying for all concerned. Juanón Could there be some kind of regulation, a seal of approval or endorsement by a regognized body for instructional videos or clips posted on YouTube?
There is so much nonsense posted which, to the uninitiated, looks and sounds right but is not and leads to more confusion and frustration when trying to learn!
Somtimes my students turn up for class with some idiotic falseta or way of playing compás that they’ve got from YT and then have to un-learn it. So annoying for all concerned.

Juanón

]]> By: Alain SEGURA http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-504 Alain SEGURA Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:34:39 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-504 A new relation has been created by internet: distances are shorter. For instance one can ask a foreign luthier and receive a quick answer. The choice is larger too. First of all I think to the official sellers. Particular sellers seem to own a marvel (if you listen to them), even so they want to sell it... And at such a price... One of my guitars comes from the USA. It is a Flamenco Negra made by Darren Hippner and it sounds great, with a superb lutherie. It is a chance for me to know Darren, and it's thanks to internet. Alain Segura A new relation has been created by internet: distances are shorter. For instance one can ask a foreign luthier and receive a quick answer.
The choice is larger too. First of all I think to the official sellers. Particular sellers seem to own a marvel (if you listen to them), even so they want to sell it… And at such a price…
One of my guitars comes from the USA. It is a Flamenco Negra made by Darren Hippner and it sounds great, with a superb lutherie.
It is a chance for me to know Darren, and it’s thanks to internet.

Alain Segura

]]> By: Christina Castellanos http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-503 Christina Castellanos Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:10:03 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-503 I agree with much of the comments made here. The internet has it's pros and cons.; the interent is also very limited. One thing good that the internet does is it brings a culture that is very rural into the world for everyone to see. It brings more information to those who may not have access to it as well as exposes much more authentic flamenco to those have never experienced it. As much as live authentic flamenco is something you must experience in person, it is definately felt in recordings and videos. The internet also brings in a vast array of interpretations so we must be careful not to loose it's pure form. It still amazes me how many people have no idea what flamenco is, more it amazes me how many people have the wrong idea about what flamenco is. I personally feel very blessed to continue a family tradition with flamenco. I lost flamenco during a part of my life and reconnected with it on the internet. I found the best teacher and friends in flamenco online. I personally would like to see a larger live flamenco community in Los Angeles being this is such a huge cultural melting pot. Not just live performances on huge stages but more intimate gatherings that brings in the general public. Flamenco is a culture within a culture that is neither commercial nor is it untouchable. I agree with much of the comments made here. The internet has it’s pros and cons.; the interent is also very limited.
One thing good that the internet does is it brings a culture that is very rural into the world for everyone to see. It brings more information to those who may not have access to it as well as exposes much more authentic flamenco to those have never experienced it. As much as live authentic flamenco is something you must experience in person, it is definately felt in recordings and videos.
The internet also brings in a vast array of interpretations so we must be careful not to loose it’s pure form. It still amazes me how many people have no idea what flamenco is, more it amazes me how many people have the wrong idea about what flamenco is.
I personally feel very blessed to continue a family tradition with flamenco. I lost flamenco during a part of my life and reconnected with it on the internet. I found the best teacher and friends in flamenco online. I personally would like to see a larger live flamenco community in Los Angeles being this is such a huge cultural melting pot. Not just live performances on huge stages but more intimate gatherings that brings in the general public.
Flamenco is a culture within a culture that is neither commercial nor is it untouchable.

]]> By: Michael Olsen/ZorkMagazine http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-491 Michael Olsen/ZorkMagazine Thu, 21 May 2009 08:08:18 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-491 I experience a larger Flamenco Community on the internet, whom will enjoy seeing my photography of Flamenco, and also hearing my Flamenco Guitar recordings I have done with other International Recording Artists. Our laptops make us recording studios and producers of our own material. I experience a larger Flamenco Community on the internet, whom will enjoy seeing my photography of Flamenco, and also hearing my Flamenco Guitar recordings I have done with other International Recording Artists. Our laptops make us recording studios and producers of our own material.

]]> By: Bob Weisenberg http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-324 Bob Weisenberg Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:24:05 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-324 This is a very interesting question, especially when one considers that one of the factors that led to the wide array of individual styles ("propio sello") in traditional flamenco was isolation and guarding one's material. Even when I was living in Moron in 1971-2, Diego and his nephews had very little access to what was going on in other flamenco towns. They didn't travel much (except Paco, of course, who was already an international figure). They didn't have much access to recordings. Not many other flamencos passed through town. And they considered this isolation a musical advantage, if they considered it at all, because they were forced to invent their own stuff. Today it is the complete opposite. Everything is readily available, probably even in Moron. (In any case, those guys are now over here!) One might think that the internet might lead to a convergence of styles and attitudes, but, that doesn't seem to be the case. To the contrary, the internet allows smaller styles and groups to thrive because the community can be now be made up of participants from all over the world. Bob Weisenberg www.myspace.com/padreehijo This is a very interesting question, especially when one considers that one of the factors that led to the wide array of individual styles (“propio sello”) in traditional flamenco was isolation and guarding one’s material.

Even when I was living in Moron in 1971-2, Diego and his nephews had very little access to what was going on in other flamenco towns. They didn’t travel much (except Paco, of course, who was already an international figure). They didn’t have much access to recordings. Not many other flamencos passed through town. And they considered this isolation a musical advantage, if they considered it at all, because they were forced to invent their own stuff.

Today it is the complete opposite. Everything is readily available, probably even in Moron. (In any case, those guys are now over here!) One might think that the internet might lead to a convergence of styles and attitudes, but, that doesn’t seem to be the case. To the contrary, the internet allows smaller styles and groups to thrive because the community can be now be made up of participants from all over the world.

Bob Weisenberg
http://www.myspace.com/padreehijo

]]> By: Estela Zatania http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-308 Estela Zatania Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:27:49 +0000 http://www.falseta.com/asking-flamenco-pros/what-is-the-future-of-flamenco-on-the-internet/#comment-308 I wrote a similar lengthy study for Deflamenco which explores the many ways of using internet in relation to flamenco, and includes the comments of people like Kiko Veneno, Arcángel, the director of the Centro Andaluz de Flamenco (CAF), Gerardo Núñez, Diego Clavel and others. The article is at: http://www.deflamenco.com/especiales/internet/index.jsp Estela Zatania I wrote a similar lengthy study for Deflamenco which explores the many ways of using internet in relation to flamenco, and includes the comments of people like Kiko Veneno, Arcángel, the director of the Centro Andaluz de Flamenco (CAF), Gerardo Núñez, Diego Clavel and others.

The article is at: http://www.deflamenco.com/especiales/internet/index.jsp

Estela Zatania

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