[DreadGod]

Hi,

I was wondering how long it took the more experienced guitarists to develop a fast continuous rasgueo. I have only been playing flamenco, and so rasgueos, for about a year and half. I have regular 3, 4, and 5 stroke rasgueos down fairly well, but my continuous ragueo is still really slow.

Regards,
Dreadgod

[at_leo_87]

it depends on how long you've been playing, how much focused practice you put in, and if you're learned any bad habits that you have to do undo. so it's hard to say how long it should take.

but if you have those other rasgueados down, then you should be able to continuous rasgueados right NOW. get a metronome, set it 60, then do one stroke per click. A, M, I, I, A, M, I, I, ETC. do this with every continuous pattern you know. once you get comfortable, kick the metronome up a notch, and repeat. and there you go, that's your continuous rasgueo!

[falseta]

Great advise... its all about keeping it slow and clean... until the position becomes natural and strong... then comes speed...

My two cents: keep it slow for a while... watch for bad habits and correct as you go... don't let them bad habits creep in.... if you tire, then take a break... always keep good position and speed will come later...

[DreadGod]

Thanks for the advice! It's a great idea to practice that with a metronome, I hadn't thought of doing that...

I couldn't agree more that it is infinitely better to play slowly and correctly than fast and inaccurately, best advice there is!

[Ger]

Dear Guitarrists,

Your Topic is also very interesting for me, because i am training continous rasgeo for more than a year, but with hardly any hope to reach this goal. When doing rasgeo slowly, it is ok (for my feeling), but when increasing the speed, there seems to be an unbridgable border.

So my feeling is, my basic position of the hand and especially the pattern of movement sets this limit.

My question now is: Should the fingers be rather straight (movement in the third joint) or more bent (movement in the second joint) ? And the second question is, should the fingers be flicked resting on the palm (or thumb) or flicked in the free air (without resting somewhere to build up stress bevor movement starts).

Is there any video available, which shows this motion (in slow motion preferable) ?

(I hope having found the right words for above description, because i have learned English only in the school ).

Thank you very much for any assistance,
wish you a nice day , Ger

[Payul]

Hi Ger,

If you put your thumb on the 6th string, and work from the fist, it must be possible.
so add some strength from the mouse of the thumb. This is the best way to train in my oppinion.
Also practice it at the side of a table or the side of your legg.

But....., it is also possible and used free in the air.

BTW. Are you Duch? Ger is a pretty common name in Holland.

[luckisup]

Hi, what helped me very much ist the following idea.

If you speak about a rolling rasgeo keep in mind, that you don't to able to roll a rasgeo forever. For the beginning it is enough when you can to 2 repetitions of any rasgeo. If you can do 3 fast repetitions it is for most music. The same for picado. It is enough if can play 2 bars fast 16 notes in sequence. More notes will come later by it self. So we this goal in mind it should be possible to qucikly get satisfying results.

I hope this hepls, Luckiusp

Originally Posted by Ger

Dear Guitarrists,

Your Topic is also very interesting for me, because i am training continous rasgeo for more than a year, but with hardly any hope to reach this goal. When doing rasgeo slowly, it is ok (for my feeling), but when increasing the speed, there seems to be an unbridgable border.

So my feeling is, my basic position of the hand and especially the pattern of movement sets this limit.

My question now is: Should the fingers be rather straight (movement in the third joint) or more bent (movement in the second joint) ? And the second question is, should the fingers be flicked resting on the palm (or thumb) or flicked in the free air (without resting somewhere to build up stress bevor movement starts).

Is there any video available, which shows this motion (in slow motion preferable) ?

(I hope having found the right words for above description, because i have learned English only in the school ).

Thank you very much for any assistance,
wish you a nice day , Ger

[mwheeler]

The easiest continuous rasgueado (I think), and the only one I've been able to develop yet, is the "Pepe Habichuela" rasgueado shown on one of Guillermo Rios' instructional videos. It is done entirely with m and i. Goes like this:

upstroke with m
downstroke with m
downstroke with i

repeat ad nauseam...

[Ger]

Thank you very much to both of you for giving me your assistance.

To do the rasgueo with only m and i seems to be the easier way for me, because especially the a-finger sounds so weak.

But nevertheless I think, this should be only the survival-method for me, if I dont make any progress with amii. So I first try to study the mentioned video of Pepe Habichuela and force myself to patience, maybe it works...

To the question if I am from Holland - no, my Name is Gerald and only my friends call me Ger. I am from Austria (the land of Mozart but no Kangaroos).

Wish a nice day to both of you, Ger

[Payul]

Hi Ger,

It is maybe easier to start learning xamii (x for little pinky) first, it feels for me more natural. after that you can skip the x again, ( or use it, what you prefere)

Payul