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Old 09-04-2010, 06:06 PM
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Default Graf-Martinez Book 2 - Incorrect Note Values?

Every week after I finish my teachers instructions, I tend to open up Gerhad Graf Martinez Flamenco Book #2. Today after re-looking falseta #89, I realized that the note values in the music notation is completely messed up from my point of view. I will post a picture as an example.



See how it says in the Falseta that from accents 1 and 2 (Beats 12, 3) that they are all 16th notes? Which doesn't make any sense to me, that would mean that the accented beat that is written lands on the contra beat of 1. Anyone else notice that the entire second volume is filled with this mistakes? Most of these notes should be an eighth note and not a sixteenth. Am I right or am I wrong? And also the time signature says its in 6/8 and 3/4 timing, with a total of 6 beats per bar, so with 16th notes each bar is incomplete. It doesn't seem proper to me. What do you guys think?




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Old 09-04-2010, 06:11 PM
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I think its because of the time signature, if you look at it it says 6/8 and 3/4. I don't think the program the writer used combined the two time signatures, and treated it as a possiblity of each bar having 3/4 timing or 6/8 timing, which both have 3 beats per bar. Is it possible?
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I'm not sure I follow you on the 3/4 and 6/8 time signatures both having 3 beats. You could subdivide 3/4 into 6 beats, but then you might as well just make it 6/8 all the way through.

It's also hard to tell what beat is where. You only gave one line of the piece which makes it difficult to put into context. Maybe if you posted several lines including a clear starting point, I could analyze it better.
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Default Re: 6/8 3/4 Time Signature

The time signature is not incorrect, just unfamiliar to you. It means that the First measure is in 6/8 time (as is the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, etc.) while the Second measure is in 3/4 time (as is the 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th, etc.)

Hope this clears it up for you.

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In my oppinion, in flamenco, it is best to play what you hear, and use the paper for help instead of visa versa.......

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What Payul said is worth its weight in gold. Use these falsettas as a backbone for your playing, not as musical pieces to be played note for note.

Still, I would like to see more of the falseta so that I can get some context as to wear the beats fall. Also, what do the squares represent verses the normal accent symbol?
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Default What do the squares represent...

The squares in the Graf-Martinez book indicate GOLPEs !!


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